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This seems far too expensive and with so many repeated minis. If there was a meeple version that could half the box size and cost then this would be a much better offer. Please consider alternatives as this may not even fund, I think meeple would be better than standees but both are better than minis. Again 80-160 minis for the factions with 4-8 total unique sculpts, why?

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Wooow this is crazy expensive, I was expecting $100 pledge, maybe $200 all in - Going to be double+ that with VAT/Shipping. I'm backing the base level for now but I might have to wish you good luck and step away on this - 22 days to figure that out I guess 😅

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Price of all 4 minion expansions is $120, price of base game is $150. This pricing means that $120 of the cost of the base game only covers the 80 minions minis, and the $30 remaining covers all the cards, all the boards, character minis, boss minis, 50 plastic coins and rulebook etc. This doesn't seem to make sense, there's something wrong with these price points.

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Please tell me there is a mistake on the expansion prices. There is no way that the plan was to sell 20 minis in a single sculpt and 1 card at retail for 50 dollars. That is so far past what anyone would pay and what any other company is charging that it has to be a mistake. Even $30 for what is included in one is overpriced. I understand that stretch goals are supposed to add to them but currently they are insultingly overpriced. You need to either lower the price for them or add the planed stretch goals into the boxes now, since it looks questionable if this will even fund let alone get any goals unlocked and the expansions are quite simply the worst deal I have ever seen in a boardgaming crowdfunding campaign. If something doesn't change I would be surprised if more than a handful of people will pledge for them

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Is there any sort of insert included to keep everything organized? If so, will it include room for the 4 expansion boxes content? Can we get more details on the expansion boxes as far as how they change up the game? For this kind of money I want more details. There was quite a few heroes in the original, will some/most/all be stretch goals or produced later as additional expansions/content?

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Can you please provide us with the rules, even if they are a WIP? I would rather read the rules than watch a video.

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Easy Roller Dice Co.
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2 days ago
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If there are only 4 heroes in the game how is this a 1-6 player game?

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Project Update: RPG Designer Diary and Gloomhaven proofing

Good day! There's not a whole lot to report on in this update. Things just keep moving along, so let's get into the details.





Gloomhaven

We have finalized and digitally proofed everything but the rule book and setup guide, which we are putting finishing touches on.

As we turn the final corner on digital proofing, full color samples should be finished and shipped to us by the end of the month for physical review.

We anticipated having eyes on the final GH2E production miniatures this week, but are being told the molds need another week or two so we're expecting to see our first off the line minis around this time too.

Raw materials for the full production run of games and accessories is being placed in preparation for a December scheduled to be full of mass manufacturing!



Minis



Unfortunately there is not much new to report here, as we haven't gotten anything actionable from the factory, but we continue to communicate regularly and should have more to show next time.



RPG

For the RPG, we have another designer diary from Danielle:

Greetings Mercenaries!


I know it’s been a little while since my last update. There hasn’t been too terribly much to report, and I’ve been deep in the process of art direction along with playtesting. I wanted to chat a little bit about the back end processes of game book creation today, as I think these are the murkiest of processes that we don’t hear a lot about when talking about game design and production.


Folks are familiar with the concept of writing, feedback, editing, etc. But the visual design of a book is extremely important as well. Layout isn’t just putting the text into a PDF with a nice background and calling it a day. It’s also designing breakout boxes for special text that are both noticeable and accessible. It’s picking colors that are easy on the eye, and are accessible to folks with color blindness. It’s picking a font that is legible to the least common denominator. It’s also framing paragraphs, headers, bulleted text, and a myriad other things to ensure readability, cohesion, and aesthetic appeal.


Then we have to consider the art. I know the last time I updated, I talked about getting art contracted, but there’s more to it than just contracting an artist and telling them to go. We have to define where the art is going to be in the book. Do we want an image that takes up a whole page, just half a page, a small spot in a corner? And what text is near that image? Is it something we can illustrate to give a visual example of? Is it a person, place, or thing that we want to ensure captures the reader’s eye along with their imagination?


Then, we decide what the art should look like. We can’t just give the artist the accompanying text and expect them to envision exactly what we think would be interesting there. Instead we need to explain how many people, what the action is, what the setting is, maybe even time of day and colors to use. The more direction we can give on large elements, the more creative the artist can get with the details.


Then we go through three rounds of progress checks. First an initial sketch to ensure the basics of the action are what we’re looking for, correct number of characters, general location, no real details. Second, we get a color rough, where the artist has filled in the colors, given options, and filled in some larger details. Last, we get a final detailed image with all the little details filled in. At each of these stages, we go back and forth with the artist to ensure the image is where we want it to be. We ask for corrections on stuff like “quatryls only have 4 fingers on each hand, and vermlings have 5 fingers on each hand” and “inox are completely furred, so make sure their skin doesn’t look smooth.” But we also ask for other things, “this is really cool, but I think it would be even cooler if this character had a black eye and bloody nose!” 


All the while, we’re trying to ensure that each illustration gives a representation of the Gloomhaven world along with what characters in this world look like. In the board game, art is essential to know what you’re looking at. We have so much art to show off every character, monster, and maps. In the RPG, we want to show characters, but more importantly, we want to show where they are, what they are doing, and how they interact with each other. We want to show off cool ceremonies, big fight scenes, dark rituals, and creeping doom. But we also want to show loving comrades, people at play, and the lighter side of Gloomhaven that makes this game dark, but also extremely compelling. So, we pick artists with a variety of styles and we choose to illustrate action and drama over landscapes and cityscapes.


So you’re probably going to see a variety of art for the Gloomhaven RPG that evoke many different emotions. That’s a good thing, I promise!

Speaking of, here’s a sneak peak of a small portion of a 2-page spread we had illustrated which shows off all 19 of our playable factions. This is the Shields, Merchant’s Guild, University, and Way of the Robin.

Art by Nastya Lehn


And here’s a not quite yet final piece of art of our harrower quartermaster forging a new weapon.

Art by Jocelyn Sarvida

Finally, we also needed new symbols for all the factions. So, I hired Rich Thomas, an accomplished artist for Revised Magic the Gathering, VtM, VtR, and many others. And he absolutely delivered. Here’s the Sect, Shields, and Merchant’s Guild symbols:
 

I think that’s enough for now, until next time!

Danielle

                                               

Just a reminder that the team will be out at PAXU. Come by booth 2728 to get your hands on the Buttons & Bugs 2024 convention scenario card! Or if you want all four promo cards that we've released this year, you can now buy them all together in a pack, which will also be available in our webstore shortly after the show.



In addition, you can check out the RPG all day every day in room 104A, either signing up through the PAXU app or stopping by and seeing if there are openings. See you there!

And you can find the latest scenario from the Frosthaven community campaign here. There's just one scenario left after this!

Have a happy Thanksgiving (if you're in the US) and we'll catch you next time!
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If the player counter is 1-6, why are there only 4 heroes in the core box? Locking required elements behind stretch goals that (at this rate) probably won't be met is not a great look.

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