Hello, Gloomhaven fam! I am genuinely stoked for GH2E - and I actually plan to use it to get some friends deeper into the game when it arrives next year. (Hopefully after we finish our Jaws of the Lion playthrough.) I am a Gloomhaven veteran myself, having played all of JotL, base GH, and FC. Out of 1st edition Gloomhaven, some of my favorite scenarios were from the original Forgotten Circles expansion (although I will not be specific so as to avoid spoilers). In light of this, I am wondering why it sounds like there are no plans to even leave the door open for a Forgotten Circles 2nd Edition down the line (at least as I am currently understanding it). Of course, I realize that the likelihood is that putting development time into refining Forgotten Circles, which has traditionally been a controversial expansion among Gloomhaven fans, would take an immense amount of time. Even getting the 2nd Printing released in the Frosthaven Kickstarter sounds like it took quite a bit to make happen, especially splitting the Forgotten Circles manual into separate Scenario and Section books and making certain balance changes. So, in light of that, I 100% would understand not having the ability or desire to put into working on it for now. However, the fact that it has been stated that there are no plans to update Forgotten Circles is very sad. Some of my favorite Gloomhaven scenarios come from Forgotten Circles and, while it is a controversial expansion, I think that at least a portion of that may be because people are more likely to speak up about something that they do not like than something that they do. On Reddit and in other online forums, I have found a great many other Gloomies who love Forgotten Circles - or at least love parts of it. Sure, it is not perfect and some parts drag, but knowing that it will never get the chance to properly shine makes me feel deflated, especially after seeing how Gloomhaven 2nd Edition is planning to bolster the 1st Edition's strengths and revise its weaknesses. I sincerely hope that this does not come across as entitled or pushy. I am immensely thankful to everyone on the team for all of the work that they have done to make Gloomhaven 2nd Edition a reality. The sheer amount of work, not only in design and development, but also in the execution of a crowdfunding campaign is surely magnitudes more immense than most of us backers can even imagine. Yet I would have really loved if there was at least a chance down the line that Forgotten Circles could get the same love that everything else has, but it seems like the future for it will be the Diviner forever being stuck with the old looking cards, no summon standees, and only the retooling that she got during the Frosthaven Kickstarter. As for the game itself, it will likely end up either being relegated to the wayside or to multiple threads of spoiler-tagged forums explaining how to integrate it (i.e. "When you would gain +1 Reputation on Rift Event X, instead gain 1 Reputation with X faction and lose 1 Reputation with Y faction" and "When you complete X Scenario, instead gain reward Y and do not gain Prosperity from completing it" etc.). Perhaps the fan community will come up with their own print-and-play Forgotten Circles upgrade pack, which could modernize a legitimately-owned copy of Forgotten Circles to the standard of GH 2nd Edition and Frosthaven, but I'm not sure how feasible that would actually be. I'm sure that many others who love Gloomhaven enough to rebuy the original game would like a chance to get the complete story with Forgotten Circles. Maybe I am wrong - and I am sure that what I have mentioned have already been considered by the team behind the games. Yet would you please reconsider the possibility of leaving the door open to revising it further down the line? If not, I 100% understand, but I would love to see Forgotten Circles in all of its 2nd Edition glory one day. In any case, I hope that you all have a wonderful day! Have a very Grand Gloomhaven Festival everyone! :D ~Polar However, if you are able and willing to answer, is there a reason why it sounds like there will never be a proper Forgotten Circles 2nd Edition with upgraded map stickers, iconography, etc.?

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